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Absintheur 11-17-2009 06:30 AM

My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
The big brown truck stopped at my house today and dropped off this nicely sporterized 98 Mauser. (I love having a C&R FFL) This rifle sports a synthetic Fajen stock with the typical hard as a rock Fajen buttpad on it. The buttpad will be changed...lol. I have already added a Cheek-Eez pad to the stock as Fajen stocks are also narrow across the top and are known cheek eaters. Plus the pad brings my head up to the scope better.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/mauser2.jpg

This already had the bolt handle converted, and has a Timney trigger and safety installed. The action is smooth and the single stage trigger breaks very cleanly. The safety is easy to use and the scope does not interfere. Before someone asks this is not a butcher job on the bolt hand but rather a very good way to convert to a scope friendly bolt handle. This kit has been used since the 50's and is very strong, unless you can heat treat after using a torch to bend the bolt handle I think this is the best method.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/mauser4.jpg

The barrel was shortened to 22 inches and it appears that whoever did the work did a proper job recrowning the muzzle but it will take a range trip to verify that and we are looking at rain all week. Pardon my grey hair in the pic...lol. The brownish/reddish discoloration in the bore appears to be copper fouling not rust...a patch showed some green streaking so it will get a session on the Outers Foul-Out machine.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/mauser5.jpg

Now before I hear about the weak American loads and how my new rifle is equal to a 30-30 here is the ammo I will be using for the most part. I have a couple cases of this set back for my Hakim as well as a couple cases of milsurp.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/mauser3.jpg

I bought this as a companion piece to my 8mm Hakim and have plenty of ammo on hand for it. With the synthetic stock it is a light weight and a stock change may be in it's future...perhaps a Boyds laminated thumbhole. It will also be converted to use detachable magazines, Gibbs Rifle Co sells these for the Mausers. Hopefully the weather will clear up long enough in the next few days for me to get out to the range with this.

For those who are interested there are several magazine options, the one from the Gibbs Rifle Co simply replaces the factory floor plate...they run 36 bucks per mag...

http://www.sporterexpress.com/Gibbs-...ne-Long-Action

or you can go this way...

http://www.voere.com/html/mag_conver...ml#Seitenbegin

I just ordered one of these as well....everyone needs a 20 round assault bolt action...lol. From the reviews on these They seem to run great if you load 18 rather than 20...sound familiar?

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z.../mausermag.jpg

MISRy 11-17-2009 09:16 AM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
Very nice. Everyone needs to drive tacks from a distance on occasion. Although I prefer 7.62 NATO for my primary it does have a Mauser action. I had a `smith who I could trust to do a proper job on the bolt handle but as you say, the way yours is done has become standard for those who can't wait 3 months for a custom job. You will most definitely need shock absorption, the ones I have that fire 8mm Mauser still have steel buttplates and I *will* have a bruise to show off Monday when I take them out.

Where did you get it/what did she run?

CrufflerJJ 11-17-2009 11:33 AM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Absintheur (Post 2029538)
The big brown truck stopped at my house today and dropped off this nicely sporterized 98 Mauser. (I love having a C&R FFL) This rifle sports a synthetic Fajen stock with the typical hard as a rock Fajen buttpad on it. The buttpad will be changed...lol. I have already added a Cheek-Eez pad to the stock as Fajen stocks are also narrow across the top and are known cheek eaters. Plus the pad brings my head up to the scope better.

This already had the bolt handle converted...--snip--

Now before I hear about the weak American loads and how my new rifle is equal to a 30-30 here is the ammo I will be using for the most part. I have a couple cases of this set back for my Hakim as well as a couple cases of milsurp.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...es/mauser3.jpg

I bought this as a companion piece to my 8mm Hakim and have plenty of ammo on hand for it.

Very pretty rifle, but unfortunately it is not C&R. If it's in your C&R bound book, you might want to consider removing it (then again, you might not!). Even though a weapon may have been made over 50 years ago, if it was imported into the US, it must remain in its "original military configuration" (IMPORTANT PHRASE) to be C&R by our friends in the BATFE.

Ref:

http://www.ttb.gov/industry_circular...985/85-11.html

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/.../t-357008.html

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/2001index.htm (ESPECIALLY the first FAQ answered under http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/1972-2007/faq.pdf ).

Just a "heads up" in case you sell it down the road.

How does your Hakim like the Olympic ammo? I've only shot mil-surplus Romanian/Yugo in mine. Although I've still got loads of Turk 8mm ammo, I keep that out of the Hakim to prevent "energetic disassembly."

Absintheur 11-17-2009 03:08 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
I never could get my Hakim to shoot the lighter bullet well. When the Hakims were originally imported and you could buy them for 75 bucks for a like new one they had the Egyptian 8mm ammo imported as well and it was all 196 grain so I have always shot heavy in mine. I did adjust the gas port to reduce the bolt speed a bit as it was very energetic when I first got it. I closed it shot by shot till it wouldn't completely cycle then opened it a few clicks and have never had a problem.

CrufflerJJ 11-17-2009 03:38 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Absintheur (Post 2030252)
I never could get my Hakim to shoot the lighter bullet well. When the Hakims were originally imported and you could buy them for 75 bucks for a like new one they had the Egyptian 8mm ammo imported as well and it was all 196 grain so I have always shot heavy in mine. I did adjust the gas port to reduce the bolt speed a bit as it was very energetic when I first got it. I closed it shot by shot till it wouldn't completely cycle then opened it a few clicks and have never had a problem.

I paid about $200 for my Hakim 8-9 years ago. Very nice trigger pull. They are not light weight rifles!

You're very smart about adjusting the gas port. Lots of Hakim rifles out "on the market" have broken or missing extractors due to people feeding the rifle too much gas. That's not happened to me (yet), but I got a couple spare extractors from Ellison's a month or so after I got the rifle. Just in case.

tulsamal 11-17-2009 04:45 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
A C&R is for collectible firearms in their original configuration.

Hard to see how any collector could argue that what you have is a C&R M98!

I've had a C&R for something like 8 years now and I wouldn't want to have to explain that rifle to ATF.

Gregg

Absintheur 11-17-2009 06:25 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
I fail to see how several of these comments add to the original post in any way. I joined this forum because it seemed that people stuck to the subject rather than making posts that simply tore down threads...guess I was wrong....lol...

skyvike 11-17-2009 06:30 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
Well, it could be that it was a C&R when he acquired it and THEN he had it sporterized.

Anything wrong with that?

cpy911 11-17-2009 06:37 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Absintheur (Post 2030529)
I fail to see how several of these comments add to the original post in any way. I joined this forum because it seemed that people stuck to the subject rather than making posts that simply tore down threads...guess I was wrong....lol...

Yes, seems like there are a lot of smart A$$ES out there and even on the forum too. Seems like everyone is an expert and must prove there "expertness" to others in order to feed their little egos I guess.

Nice rifle, do what ever the HEL! you want with it, C&R or not!

Enjoy sending lead down range....looks fun!

8MM is a good cartridge btw, also like the 7mm Mauser too!!!

tulsamal 11-18-2009 08:08 AM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
Quote:

Well, it could be that it was a C&R when he acquired it and THEN he had it sporterized.

Anything wrong with that?
Sure, wouldn't be anything wrong with that. But he said "the BBT came this morning." He sure got a lot of work done in a few hours! If you read the OP, that's not what happened.

Quote:

Yes, seems like there are a lot of smart A$$ES out there and even on the forum too. Seems like everyone is an expert and must prove there "expertness" to others in order to feed their little egos I guess.

Nice rifle, do what ever the HEL! you want with it, C&R or not!
If somebody came on and made a nice post about how they had figured out how to convert an AR-15 to full auto and it sure ran nice and here's the pictures, would everybody just say "that looks nice" and not even mention that what they are showing amounts to self-incrimination in a felony? That at the very least they should modify what they said?

That's not "thread drift." That's pointing out a legal problem both for the OP and for somebody else that might not know any better. Otherwise we might as well all start some new threads with photos of our new "shorty" shotguns that we made ourselves with a hacksaw.

Gregg

CrufflerJJ 11-18-2009 06:00 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
FWIW, the purpose of my first post was not to point fingers or find fault with anybody's actions. It was (as tulsamal alluded) to let folks know that not all goodies sold as C&R are truly C&R. I've done it myself as a buyer, before I knew any better (no details to protect the semi-innocent:smile:).

There are dealers who sold barreled actions as C&R, or Mosin Nagant rifles in plastic Monte Carlo stocks as C&R. There are people who sold stripped receivers as C&R (figuring that since they came from a C&R rifle, the receivers should also be C&R...right???).

Knowing how wonderful certain government agencies can be, it might be a good thing to be aware of the "original military configuration" bugaboo should the owner of a sporterized weapon look to sell it on GunBroker or AuctionArms.

gangsta99 11-18-2009 06:33 PM

Re: My 98 Mauser arrived today....
 
If you thought members posts were malicious when they are trying to save the OP from being screwed down the road by a possible ATF audit then you are a pretty big dumbass.

This forum is about passing along info to like minded folks.


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